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Feb 20, 2005 19:04:03 GMT -5
Post by rinker36 on Feb 20, 2005 19:04:03 GMT -5
I'm planning on lifting my trooper in the next few months and have seen so many different ways to do so. What would be a simple way to lift it about 4 inches?
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scooter36863
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'95 trooper limited, dana 44 SAS welded up, 37 inch MT/R's, 4.56 gears, ARB bumper
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Feb 20, 2005 20:48:13 GMT -5
Post by scooter36863 on Feb 20, 2005 20:48:13 GMT -5
The easiest way would be to buy some body lift and crank the t-bars, it's not the best way, but it is the cheapest and easiest. You can get a couple of inches out of the stock t-bars and control arms and you can get up to 3 inches of body lift off the market for around $90. You could also get some coil spacers for the rear for pretty cheap too. That could set you at about 5 inches, but it will prolly ride like S@#% and if you go any bigger than 32 inch tires you will most likely break tie-rods left and right. The cost will only go up from there. The next step would be to put together a more in depth lift, or the major step would be to do a SAS but that's if your gettin really serious about wheelin it and puttin the $ into it........ If you buy a lift kit it's gonna cost you between $600-$800, if you put one togehter yourself you can get it for cheaper. If you get into the solid axle it's gonna start gettin into the thousands easily........... Im runnin a Dana 44 wide track out of a 74 jeep j-10. It's set up on coils front and rear and we fabbed up a custom long arm suspension. The coils give me tons of flex and ride great (better than it did stock) and the long arms give me tons of room to move around too. I'm running 4.56 gears with the rear locked up and the front welded. The rear isuzu 12 bolt axle is super sturdy and is pretty much the equivlent to a Dana 44. I thrash on mine pretty good sometimes and it puts up with almost anything I throw at it, but I do break stuff and if you start wheelin it you should start savin up money b/c it's addicting and it's deff not cheap. Before I did my SAS I broke the ifs left and right and prolly spent more money fixing that than it was worth................ ;D
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Feb 21, 2005 11:13:19 GMT -5
Post by BigSwede on Feb 21, 2005 11:13:19 GMT -5
I would get OME rear coils and 2" coil spacers, and crank the front torsion bars...that'll get you about 3.5". If you want more, you will have to add some body lift. Also consider a ball joint flip/spacer for a little more downtravel up front.
To really do it right, consider a diff drop bracket such as from Darlington Off Road. That will reduce stress on your CVs. A lot of people are running 3.5" without too many problems; but if you get serious about off-roading you might start to break CVs.
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Feb 24, 2005 18:05:18 GMT -5
Post by rinker36 on Feb 24, 2005 18:05:18 GMT -5
thanks for the info
How hard is it to install a simple lift like ball joint flip and bigger torsion bars and coil spacers.....etc yourself vs a professional shop. I was quoted $750 for the instalation of a 3 inch lift....it seems kinda steep for that type of job?
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scooter36863
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'95 trooper limited, dana 44 SAS welded up, 37 inch MT/R's, 4.56 gears, ARB bumper
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Feb 24, 2005 21:23:45 GMT -5
Post by scooter36863 on Feb 24, 2005 21:23:45 GMT -5
thats crap dont pay it, when i was 15 i didnt know s#%# about what i was doing and me and a buddy put on my first 3 inch lift on my trooper. it took us four days working after school till about 10 at night but we got it done and everything was done right. we had a full shop to work in though. it can be done with minimal tools but having impact and air wrenches etc. sure helps out..................
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Thepurplebeast
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96 Trooper S... Totally STOCK! AARGH!
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Feb 24, 2005 22:50:58 GMT -5
Post by Thepurplebeast on Feb 24, 2005 22:50:58 GMT -5
I'm 16, don't know S%$! and have a stock 96 isuzu. its been my baby, but only recently was interested in makin it my big baby, but i dont know where to start. HELP!
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Feb 26, 2005 10:08:02 GMT -5
Post by rinker36 on Feb 26, 2005 10:08:02 GMT -5
My friends dad restores old cars and has all the right tools so i'm thinking that may be an option
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Feb 26, 2005 10:09:03 GMT -5
Post by rinker36 on Feb 26, 2005 10:09:03 GMT -5
HaHa dude i'm 16 and am just starting to learn about this too
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DaveT
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Feb 27, 2005 19:34:48 GMT -5
Post by DaveT on Feb 27, 2005 19:34:48 GMT -5
hey yall im 17 and put the 3.5 on my 1998 trooper and it took me 6 hours did the ball joint flip and the bump stops and it took me around 6 hours so its not that hard at all
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scooter36863
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'95 trooper limited, dana 44 SAS welded up, 37 inch MT/R's, 4.56 gears, ARB bumper
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Feb 27, 2005 21:09:42 GMT -5
Post by scooter36863 on Feb 27, 2005 21:09:42 GMT -5
im 21 now and ive learned so much, ive built mine up myself and look at all ive learned in the last few years www.cardomain.com/id/scooter36863 just jump in there, thats the best way to get the knowledge of it. take your time and do the research to make sure you get things right the first time
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Feb 28, 2005 10:15:42 GMT -5
Post by BigSwede on Feb 28, 2005 10:15:42 GMT -5
This is all pretty easy stuff...if you are competent enough to replace shocks you should have no trouble.
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Mar 14, 2005 22:14:18 GMT -5
Post by 94supertrooper on Mar 14, 2005 22:14:18 GMT -5
Ok I am completely confused.... I have a 1994 Trooper 4x4 3.2L SOHC. My goal is to get it lifted for the desert. I have been looking at the calmini lifts and the independent 4x4 lifts. Which one should i go for. I was reading the indepenent 4x4 discription and it said that i would have to flip the ball joints... why is this? and would i have to do this when if i got the calmini lift aswell? I also use my trooper for commuting around 120 miles a day. And she is still going strong!!! so i want somthing that is going to be forgiving. Also what size rims and tires would be ideal for this application. Sorry for all the qustions I just feel lost in the whole lift world. Thanks for the help......
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Mar 15, 2005 14:56:35 GMT -5
Post by BigSwede on Mar 15, 2005 14:56:35 GMT -5
The ball joint flip allows a little more downtravel, because when you crank the torsion bars to lift the front, you are trading downtravel for uptravel. Crank too far, and you wont have any downtravel left. The BJ flip gives you back some of that. Also helps getting alignment after the lift.
If I were you I would go with the Indy4x lift, it is simpler and just as effective. Give Matt a call and he'll talk you through it, very helpful guy.
The main thing you get different with the Calmini kit is the new upper control arms, which mostly help with alignment, but reviews are mixed as to if they are necessary or even overly helpful.
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scooter36863
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'95 trooper limited, dana 44 SAS welded up, 37 inch MT/R's, 4.56 gears, ARB bumper
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Mar 15, 2005 15:42:05 GMT -5
Post by scooter36863 on Mar 15, 2005 15:42:05 GMT -5
yeah........ bigswede is right. I have done troopers with both lifts and they are both good alternatives. Whatever you do I would def. recomend the ball joint flip b/c as bigswede said it help with your down travel and it will take some of the added stress back off of the cv's. I would also look at investing in a good set of shocks. I'm not sure what kind of shocks Matt has with his but, the ones that come with the calmini kit are kind of minimal and wear out pretty fast so a good stout set of shocks is a must have to help cushion up everything on the front. Either one of the kits is pretty easy to install and are a good place to start if you're just gettin into it all.
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Mar 22, 2005 23:53:19 GMT -5
Post by manyhats87 on Mar 22, 2005 23:53:19 GMT -5
You veterans are a fountain of info, thanks for sharing . Today I ordered the OME rear coils from 4x4 connection for $65.92 ea, and 4 nitrogen-charged shocks from 4wheelparts...they have a deal on Pro Comp 9000's, 4 w/ boots for $135.99. My '94, with 115K, has been bottoming out more & more lately, so some new iron should help. Will there likely be any brake line issues at the rear?, some of the full-blown kits have a bracket to extend one of the lines? Hoping for a 1" lift over stock, no spacers for now. Planning to spray the tbar adjuster bolts a day or 2 with WD40...Any otehr prep work I should do, like making that bracket, before the UPS truck stops by?
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